BMW and Daimler are being sued. Why? They haven’t killed the ICE yet

Oh deary me

17w ago

The German NGO Deutsche Umwelthilfe is taking Daimler and BMW to court for failing to put an expiry date on the ICE.

DUH argues that this is in line with the Paris climate accords, the climate legislation in Germany and it also argues that BMW and Daimler should do what everyone else is doing in the car industry and made a clear announcement that they’ll kill the petrol engine by a certain date.

Car makers are under enormous pressure to go electric, especially in the EU, so this is just another brick in this particular wall. BMW got off to an early start with the i3 and i8 around ten years ago but it has since slowed down and started from scratch, with the iX3 (electric X3) and the i4 (electric 4-Series).

Daimler is on a similar path and it has been working on a parallel line-up, which consists of an equivalent electric version for each ICE model. At the moment, they‘ve got the EQE, EQS, EQA, EQC (but this is an SUV, not an electric C-Class) and the EQS SUV (under the Maybach brand) on its way.

I apologize in advance if you don’t agree with me, and feel free to share your opinion in the comments, but this is becoming a bit farcical. The EU and China may be obsessed with electricity but the U.S. isn’t [yet], except for a few states, and then you’ve got other markets where all these brands operate - Africa, most Asian countries apart from Japan and China, South America, Eastern Europe - that aren’t ready for EVs, and they certainly won’t be in the next 10 years.

And I‘m gonna have to apologize once again because I’m repeating myself when I say that A, we all agree that we need to cut down on emissions but BEVs are just one of the options and B, as Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said, legislators need to stop obsessing on electric power and focus on the actual, long-term consequences and carbon footprint of this transition, which, as Tavares said, “go well beyond what comes out of the tailpipe”.

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Comments (38)

  • Switching to EV’s should be a choice plain and simple and good on BMW and Daimler for not doing what is expected of every manufacturer. I have said it before and I will say it again going fully electric is not the answer and will not work as the infrastructure is not there for it and won’t be in 10yrs

      4 months ago
    • I can bet my watch collection that the country I was born in (Italy) won’t be ready (infrastructure-wise) in 10 years. I can absolutely guarantee it

        4 months ago
    • Never bet a watch collection. Children yes but never watches

      It’s all well and good saying that charging stations are being built here there and everywhere but when joe bloggs’ house can’t have one to charge his car then that’s the biggest...

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        4 months ago
  • I’d tell them to F off

      4 months ago
    • Seriously they need to f**k off as

      p e t r o l i s t h e f u t u r e

      e v c o m m u n i s t

        4 months ago
    • I’m less sure on petrol being the future, but both companies have made great strides in developing EVs

        4 months ago
  • You could have stopped at "DUH" because ... DUUUUUUUUH. Legislators DO need to stop obsessing and look at the long-term footprint a bit more. They don't and won't. No money in it. This is a power grab dressed in climate change paranoia. Yes, we absolutely need to act now. Going full ahead on just EV is as bad as going full petrol. We already made that mistake!!! Don't do it again. That's not logical.

    Developing multiple paths forward is the correct answer. EV, hydrogen and synthetic fuels. If we can come up with yet another path forward - that's even better. But now we have three possible avenues. Let's pursue them.

    Tar and feather politicians!! Let's bring it back. We could use tons of tar and feathers in this country all around.

      4 months ago
  • DUH is infamous, at least in Germany, for enforcing diesel bans in some major cities. The really farcical part here is that they are partly funded by the German taxpayer, so, in other words, I'm paying for not being allowed to drive. The other fun fact is that while people stopped going by car during the pandemic, the levels of the evil stuff like NOx basically didn't change. Gradually I'm under the impression that the patients are running the asylum here 🤬

      4 months ago
    • That’s the way of the world. It’s like we’re constantly having our wrists slapped with a whip. And we’re paying for the whip, and the salary of the person who does the slapping

        4 months ago
    • You're obviously right but my argument here is that it's up to us to change things. In a democracy, one doesn't even need a revolution in order to do that. Just vote for people who think like you 😊

        4 months ago
  • What complete morons! Switching to EVs and infrastructure as a whole isn't that easy! These tools that are suing both BMW and Daimler obviously don't realize that, because they've got peas for brains. Companies have to invest billions of dollars in to building new platforms, dedicating R&D towards battery technology and engineering, charging infrastructure, etc. and it's a load of work in such a short amount of time. Hell, even to get the whole infrastructure to change within 10-15 years isn't going to be that easy of a task alone. Can it be done? Sure. However, will it be an easy and smooth task? No. That and not everyone can be able to afford a new BEV, let alone a used one either. When BMW and Mercedes have already invested in EVs (i.e. iX3, EQS, EQE, etc.), I don't get why they're being targeted. This is just nothing but a money grab and it's simply disgusting.

    Eco-fascism at it's finest!

      4 months ago