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Cheap Thrills It’s not very often that I fail to find the appropriate words to express my emotions, but it would seem as though just such an occasion has befallen us, courtesy of the farcical 5-second penalty that denied Sebastian Vettel victory at the Canadian Grand Prix. A decision, which I felt, undermined the very concept racing and wrongly altered the outcome of an otherwise thrilling race the German was set to win on merit. Don’t take my work for it, the penalty, which was enforced for an apparent “Unsafe re-entry ” to the track, drew criticism from the likes of David Croft, Martin Brundle, Jenson Burton Mark Webber, Nigel Mansell and Mario Andretti. As well as a sizeable portion of the Canadian crowd who inundated the podium with boos following the race. Before saying anything else, I should probably begin by establishing my position. No, I do not believe the penalty was justified. Some may argue that I am acting out of personal bias, but I assure you that is not the case. My irritation merely stems from, what I believe, to be the unfair alteration of a race result. Bearing that in mind, please allow me to explain myself. Granted, when coming into turn 4, Vettel made a slight error, which caused the back of his car to step out, forcing him onto the grass. However, such an error has been made by many in the past and, regardless, it is his rejoining the track that was called into question. Now let’s analyze this. Vettel was already driving a car with a loose back end, an issue that would have been compounded by the grass he would have picked up on his tires. Upon rejoining the track he can be seen, fighting the car in an attempt to regain his composure, and, while doing so, the car automatically moves to the right hand side. He didn’t move to the left hand side of the track because such a move was, at the time, physically impossible. Given the speed at which he was travelling and the lack of grip he was dealing with, nothing short of standing on the brake pedal, relinquishing the win and possibly spinning the car, would have prevented that Ferrari from moving towards the right hand side of the track. An opinion that, as stated earlier, is shared by many in the F1 paddock. Next we have the issue of Hamilton. Some argue that Vettel forced him into the wall and gave him nowhere to go. To which I say, Hamilton was not forced into physical contact with the wall, and he had enough time, space, skill and brainpower to avoid contact with Vettel. I would also like to reiterate the fact that given the compromised nature of his car, Vettel had nowhere else to go. I understand that many of you may attribute my anger to bitterness and spite, what with Vettel being denied the chance to end Ferrari’s now 7 race winning streak. But the fact of the matter is this. We seem to have developed a rather warped idea of what constitutes competition these days. Such is the obsession with ‘Fair’ and ‘Just’ on track behavior that there have been several incidents where the quality of a race has suffered as a result. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for punishing blatant, unsporting behavior. But to penalize a seemingly innocuous incident like this, in a manner that interferes with the result of a genuinely enthralling Grand Prix, one that saw two of the greatest drivers of this generation going hammer and tongs for the win. It undermines the very purpose of racing, one that has existed for centuries and has fueled Formula One since the sport’s creation. It entices skill, perseverance and commitment from its participants, rewarding those who most embody these qualities with the success they deserve. But with the minefield of technicalities, rules, regulations and steward’s inquiry’s that currently engulf the sport, it is sometimes difficult to remember where that purpose has gone. With Hamilton now 29 points clear in the driver’s championship and Mercedes having long since asserted their control in the constructors table, we look set for yet another dominant season at the hands of the Silver Arrows. I only fear that incidents like this mean that the occasional, enthralling upsets will be made all the more rare.
Scott Elliott posted in Today's Top News | DriveTribe
Is safety making F1 unsafe? Max’s pole penalty Last night I witnessed Max Verstappen open Q3 with a superb lap to set provisional pole ahead of the two Ferrari’s. He then followed this up with an even faster lap on his second run to secure pole position. The problem was when he set that second lap, he passed double waved yellow at the last corner because Valtteri Bottas has crashed and marshalls were on track. I absolutely hate the way some penalties have been given out (and in some cases not so, given previous precedents) but you have to respect the rules as well. Initially the incident wasn’t investigated, but Max then spoke to the press and as this transcribe shows he admitted not backing off and also disregarded safety https://twitter.com/jenniegow/status/1188218016623927303?s=21. Right behind Bottas on track at the time he crashed was Lewis Hamilton, Lewis didn’t have time to lift, nor do I believe there were yellow flags at the time he got there. The Ferrari’s backed off, much to Sebastian Vettel‘a frustration as he was on a better lap. But Max not only improved his overall time, he went purple in the last sector as he ignored the yellow flags. Once the stewards decided to investigate it was always going to be a penalty, but what would they do? Max has already set two laps good enough for pole, but he had blatantly ignored the rules and his press response was very arrogant. Before we go further I’d like to add that I’m a fan of Max since he hit F1, sure he had a string of accidents early on but he goes for it, sometimes he is borderline, but he is an out and out racer. He will be world champion, I’m sure. Back to the issue in hand, let’s ignore what Max did and look at two things firstly the on track situation. We had a car in the wall, not only that but the car had gone off and destroyed the barrier so if another car went off it would be straight into the concrete. But there were double waved and, crucially, marshals on the track. If it weren’t for the many thousands of marshals all over the world we wouldn’t go racing, many of them are volunteers. This is something we must not forget, unlike drivers who are paid often obscene amounts of money to do what they love, these people are there doing a job to help make it happen, often their only reward is to see their hero fly past on the track. This is something the drivers, the teams and the powers that be in F1 must value because they are equally the people who without the whole circus would collapse. We also know that other drivers, Vettel for example, were able to see the flags and take appropriate action, there were no visibility issues to stop a driver from seeing what was going on. So now we establish what the on track situation is then we look at secondly what message does this send to the racing world? All over the world at all levels the same flags are used, motorsport is a sport which has managed to universally at all levels utilise the same system, much like a red or yellow card in football. So there is no excuse for not knowing, it’s drummed into the drivers right from the first cadet briefings they get when they first step in a kart. So with millions watching and seeing Max firstly ignore the flags and go purple but secondly just think he can get his fastest lap deleted because the other was good enough as well is not the right message to send to the motorsport community. So if the FIA didn’t act then you’d have potential chaos throughout the ranks, whilst Max seems to think it is OK because he knows what he is doing, that isn’t the point, the point is the message it sends out. Let me paint a picture; you have a kart spin, you have a novice driver coming round who’s just seen Max get away with ignoring yellows and a marshal recovering the kart. Now I’ve been hit by a kart at low speed and been first on scene to a rolled kart which resulted in a broken collar bone, so when that novice comes round and follows Max’s example, hits the other kart seriously injures themselves and a marshal and the other driver is that acceptable? Of course the answer is no, so you have to look at why they ignored that flag, of course if they see their hero do it and get away with it and it’s acceptable at the highest level of F1 then of course they think they can do the same. Finally, there is also the risk that if a second car went in there (and we’ve seen it happen before, if one car goes off so can another) there will be extra debris, that can fly through to the crowd. Whilst all motorsport tickets say you attend at your own risk, no one wants to see fans getting hurt from avoidable debris. So for all of this the FIA has to take a stance and take action. You also have to say had Vettel not backed off would he have beaten Max‘s second fastest time? Whilst we will never know it’s a reasonable question and one that means you can’t just say “delete the fastest time”. After investigation I feel it is therefore correct for Max to take a penalty as detailed by the FIA https://www.fia.com/news/f1-verstappen-stripped-mexico-gp-pole-following-yellow-flag-infringement. His only defence seems to be that he knew of the incident but not the flags, a pretty poor defence given the car in front had already slowed and was aware of the yellows and the onboard video showed the yellows being both visible and with enough time. I’d much preferred to have seen Max start from pole and give the Ferrari’s a run for their money down to turn 1 than to see the front row locked out in red. With their power I can’t see anyone challenging them at the start unless one of them makes a mistake. But equally I agree with the penalty, as on this occasion doing nothing I think would be far worse. However, I do think that equally if the FIA, drivers and teams are going to call ’safety’ there needs to be a balance. Two weeks ago we saw Charles Le Clerc repeatedly ignore his teams calls to pit, this ended up with debris falling off his car, hitting Lewis’ car and leaving fragments across the track. Again this is equally dangerous, just look back to the incident in Hungary in which Massa was hit by debris several years ago. Max and Charles are the future F1 title contenders (with others) and they need to be setting the right example. They’ve grown up in an era where safety is high, death has been almost eradicated and a perception that you can walk away from any accident. But we were reminded at Spa that this is not the case. However it would seem that the constant drive for safety may in fact end up giving the most unsafe outcome. Why? Because in a world of entitlement it some seems drivers believe they are entitled to safety and it is someone else’s responsibility when in fact safety is not a right and it is their own responsibility.
Scott Elliott | DriveTribe
Monaco: A dream come true My earliest memory as a child: sitting on the lounge floor watching the F1 cars going round the hairpin at Monaco. Today, a week before I turn 40: a memory and dream comes true as I stand on that hairpin Read more and see all the pictures here. https://scottelliott10.wordpress.com/2020/02/19/monaco-a-dream-come-true/
Hello my Name is Jake Coare I suffer from clinical depression and anxiety I also have Asperger’s syndrome a form of Autism and I’m a huge Formula one and Sebastian Vettel fan